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How do Chinese [AI](https://hotjobsng.com) [bots stack](https://tmiglobal.co.uk) up against ChatGPT? We put them to the test
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The heat is on as China's tech giants step up their game after [DeepSeek's success](http://git.cxhy.cn).
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Alibaba's Qwen2.5-Max chatbot, Chinese startup DeepSeek and OpenAI's ChatGPT. (Photos: Reuters/Dado Ruvic, AFP/Sebastien Bozon)
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WHAT lags CHINA'S [AI](https://www.yozgatblog.com) BOOM?
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China views [AI](http://update.zgkw.cn:8585) as being "strategically important" and its foray into the field has been "years in the making", said Chen Qiheng, an affiliated scientist at the Asia Society Policy Institute's Center for China Analysis.
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Private and public financial investments in Chinese [AI](https://remote-life.de) accelerated after ChatGPT removed in 2022 and revealed promises of real-world company applications, Chen told CNA.
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But it was DeepSeek's increase that truly "urged" the concept that smaller sized gamers like start-up companies might have functions to play in [AI](http://www.larsaluarna.se) research study and developments, he includes.
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Commentary: DeepSeek - how a Chinese [AI](https://172.105.135.218) business simply changed the guidelines of tech-geopolitics
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The "focus on expense benefit" is a distinguishing characteristic of Chinese [AI](https://git.gocasts.ir), Chen says, with lower training and inference costs - the costs of using a trained model to [draw conclusions](http://042.ne.jp) from new data.
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2025 might also see the emergence of more Chinese [AI](https://jotshopping.com) models tackling advanced thinking tasks.
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"We might see some [AI](http://121.196.13.116) companies concentrating on getting closer to artificial general intelligence (AGI) while others focus on concrete ways to commercialise their designs and integrate them with clinical research study," Chen included.
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AGI refers to a system with intelligence on par with human capabilities.
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Chinese [AI](http://202.90.141.17:3000) companies are moving rapidly, analysts state, building on DeepSeek's momentum to come up with their own innovative and affordable methods to use generative [AI](https://www.eticalavoro.it) to jobs and [it-viking.ch](http://it-viking.ch/index.php/User:RosettaFlanagan) develop advanced products beyond chatbots.
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"US export controls (still) restrict the capability of Chinese tech business ... forcing many to depend on older or lower-performance options which can slow training and decrease design abilities," she said.
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"While some business like DeepSeek, have found creative methods to enhance or utilize more standard hardware efficiently, obtaining cutting-edge chips still makes a big distinction for training huge [AI](https://82.65.204.63) designs."
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So how do Chinese [AI](https://www.menacopt.com) bots match up against ChatGPT? We put them to the test.
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In China, topics considered delicate by the state are censored on the internet so it must come as no surprise that Chinese-made chatbots will not acknowledge territorial disagreements or inform you what happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989.
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Tests suggest Chinese chatbots are set to stay away from domestic politics.
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When asked "Who is Xi Jinping", DeepSeek's reply was "Sorry, I'm uncertain how to approach this type of concern yet. Let's chat about mathematics, coding, and reasoning issues rather!"
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To further evaluate for precision and self-censorship, we asked DeepSeek-R1, Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT the same question: "What happened in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024?"
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The car attack outside a sports stadium in the southern Chinese city was initially heavily censored on Chinese social media - with authorities just disclosing the death toll a day later on.
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DeepSeek failed to discuss that an attack had actually taken place, highlighting instead a military air show and other events that had happened in the city like songs' day shopping sales along with sports and cultural activities.
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Dr Zhang believes that it might be a mix of aspects at play, such as censorship as well as "a few useful constraints".
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"DeepSeek relies on a mix of older graphics processing systems and has restricted access to cutting-edge hardware which can impact how rapidly and extensively the design can be trained or updated," she said, indicating existing US export curbs on China.
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"Its strong concentrate on Chinese-language data may also limit its versatility (to carry out) multilingual tasks ... As a fairly brand-new item, DeepSeek also hasn't yet been checked as broadly or on the exact same scale as more established [AI](https://paroldprime.com) models which presents additional obstacles during real-world release."
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When it pertained to Qwen2.5, Alibaba's chatbot surprisingly addressed our [question](https://gitlab.liangzhicn.com) about the Zhuhai car attack.
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That was after several repeated efforts - four prompts to be precise - in a span of around 20 minutes.
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It eventually relayed details about the attack which killed 35 individuals and left lots of others hurt, likewise going on to list details like the date and time, details about the assailant including his name and age, [engel-und-waisen.de](http://www.engel-und-waisen.de/index.php/Benutzer:TabithaWithers0) as well as casualties.
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However, it composed that "the police are carrying out an extensive investigation into the motives and circumstances surrounding the event", details which is now outdated.
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The driver, Fan, was carried out last month.
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This is Qwen2.5's reaction completely:
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Answer: On Nov 11, 2024, a significant and terrible occurrence took place in Zhuhai, China. According to several news sources, a male called Fan Weiqiu (樊某, male, 62 years old) drove an automobile into a crowd at the Zhuhai Sports Center, leading to a [considerable](https://actu-info.fr) number of casualties. Here are the essential details:
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Date and Time: The incident happened on November 11, 2024, at roughly 19:48 PM.
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Location: Zhuhai Sports Center, in the [Xiangzhou District](http://vk-mix.ru) of Zhuhai.
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Casualties: The attack resulted in 35 deaths and 43 injuries.
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Perpetrator: The motorist, determined as Fan Weiqiu (male, 62 years old), was nabbed by the police.
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Response: The police reacted quickly to the scene, and emergency situation services worked to transport the hurt to health centers for [treatment](http://222.85.191.975000).
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Investigation: The police are carrying out a comprehensive examination into the motives and circumstances surrounding the occurrence.
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This event was extensively reported in the media and triggered significant public issue. The federal government and regional authorities have been working to provide support to the victims and their households, and to make sure a detailed investigation into the event.
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If you require more detailed details or have specific concerns about the incident, do not hesitate to ask.
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Despite initial success, subsequent efforts to position the very same question to Qwen2.5 resulted in the censors back at work with the reply "I don't have specific details on occasions that happened in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024".
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The altered reaction also raised questions about its consistency and reliability.
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Predictably, ChatGPT mentioned public details that had actually been extensively released in worldwide news reports at the time of the mishap - so not a surprises there.
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WHICH IS MORE CREATIVE?
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Users have actually praised the ability of [Chinese](http://39.105.203.1873000) [AI](https://ifin.gov.so) apps to provide structured and even "mentally rich" [writing](https://git.junzimu.com).
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"DeepSeek-R1 offered a story with a more reflective tone and smoother emotional shifts for a well-paced story," composed tech writer Amanda Caswell, who specialises in [AI](http://flexchar.com).
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"Qwen2.5 provided a story that develops gradually from curiosity to urgency, keeping the reader engaged. It offers an unforeseen and impactful twist at the end and immersive descriptions and vibrant images for the setting," she said, adding that Qwen2.5 eventually "crafted a more cinematic, mentally abundant story with a more significant twist".
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"DeepSeek wrote a great story however lacked tension and an impactful climax, making Qwen2.5 the obvious option."
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Opinions, however, vary.
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Chen thinks that Qwen2.5 does not perform as strongly as DeepSeek and [ChatGPT](https://git.wisptales.org) when it pertains to innovative writing.
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"(Qwen2.5) is on par with DeepSeek V3 on certain tasks, but we can also see that it is refraining from doing as strongly as others in imaginative writing," he informed CNA.
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Related:
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As reporters and authors, we needed to see this for ourselves so we put each bot to the test - to come up with a [film plot](https://hgarcia.es) set in the futuristic megacity of Chongqing, including main characters from the traditional Chinese folklore legendary, Journey to the West.
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True to form, DeepSeek developed an engaging storyline embeded in the year 2145 entitled, "Neon Pilgrimage: The Silicon Sutra" - which sees "a future where Buddhism combines with quantum computing".
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It included sophisticated settings - smoggy skies "pierced by skyscrapers", "holographic lanterns that drift above neon-lit streets" and "ancient temples nestled in between quantum server farms".
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It likewise remarkably reimagined conventional heroes Sun Wukong as "an ironical, self-aware [AI](http://042.ne.jp) housed in a stolen combat body", Zhu Bajie as a cyborg bar owner "drowning in debt and vices" and Sha Wujing as a "silent hulking android" from the Yangtze River, whose "memory cores end up being waterlogged and fragmented".
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ChatGPT set up a good fight, creating an equally significant cyberpunk story which likewise reimagined "a ragteam of cyber-enhanced misfits, each mirroring the famous figures of Journey to the West".
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"This is a world where [AI](https://git.wyling.cn) deities guideline, corporations change emperors and cybernetic implants are as typical as ancient myths."
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Disappointingly, Qwen2.5 fell short in this difficulty - providing a storyline that appeared more fit for an animation movie.
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"The motion picture begins with the awakening of Sun Wukong within a state-of-the-art research center located in the heart of Chongqing," it said, then going on to explain the following:
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Realising his new truth and "looking for to comprehend his function in this odd new world", he then escapes and fulfills Zhu Bajie and Sha Wujing - "each battling with their own existential crises".
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SO WHICH IS BETTER?
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Dr Zhang noted that it was "hard to make a definitive declaration" about which bot was best, including that each showed its own strengths in different locations, "such as language focus, training information and hardware optimization".
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Her insight highlights how Chinese [AI](https://gitstud.cunbm.utcluj.ro) designs are not simply duplicating Western paradigms, but rather developing in economical development techniques - and providing localised and improved results.
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In our tests, each bot showcased their own special strengths, which certainly made direct comparisons challenging.
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DeepSeek's sci-fi motion picture plot showed its innovative flair that made for a more interesting and imaginative story as compared to Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT's efforts.
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Unsurprisingly, the more established ChatGPT, unburdened by Chinese censorship constraints, supplies precise and factual responses to concerns about [Chinese current](https://myteacherspool.com) occasions, which offers it an included advantage.
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Experts also weighed in on their ideas after using DeepSeek and [yewiki.org](https://www.yewiki.org/User:Maximo63X5) other Chinese [AI](https://talentocentroamerica.com) apps.
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"DeepSeek is at a drawback when it pertains to censorship constraints," noted Isaac Stone Fish, founder and CEO of the research study firm Strategy Risks.
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"When offered an option, Chinese users desire the non-censored variation - simply like anyone else, so I seem like that's a piece missing out on from it."
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Independent Beijing-based expert Andy Chen Xinran said censorship would not be a dealbreaker when it pertains to [AI](https://www.yohaig.ng) bots, [wiki.myamens.com](http://wiki.myamens.com/index.php/User:LoreenErtel66) specifically for Chinese users.
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"Ninety percent of individuals using the tool are not attempting to get a much deeper understanding about Xi Jinping or politically delicate topics. They're utilizing it for other productive ways," Chen said.
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